ever notice...

ever notice how most vb questions end up being API answers? kinda gives you a clue of how important api is for development I think.

That's mainly because VB is such a simple language, you can't do very much without API. So in a sense, API is amazing. From a different point of view, VB is just downright pitiful...I prefer to think the former...

VB isn't pitiful!!! Watch your mouth! images/icons/smile.gif

Think about it this way before you start blaspheming on my forum:

- VB is a RAPID DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT. It provides you with the ability to very quickly prototype and build fully functional applications.
- VB encapsulates and simplifies large portions of development (especially windows programming) in its IDE, but IT DOESN'T PREVENT you from using all of the methods that C++ programmers are FORCED to use.
- The only pitiful thing about VB is the fact that alot of VB programmers are lazy and aren't willing to go the extra mile to learn the API - AND THEN THEY WHINE that they can't do all the things that programmers in other languages can... USING THE API. They refuse to work for it.

Give me a break guys... VB is terrific AND powerful if you make full use of everything it offers. Sure its not QUITE as fast as C++ and the EXEs might require a runtime library, but think about what these small details give you - You can develop in a day what would take a C++ programmer multiple days... setting up callback routines for the windows controls, mountains of code for doing simple stuff like setting captions...

Don't ever, EVER call VB pitiful.

I wrote two powerful applications (not read and process DB stuff) without the need for using the api att all!

The both rely on heavy calculations which are performed very very fast (just a matter of using the right algoritmes)

About VB being dependend on the runtime, so are VC programs, unless you are willing of doing EVERYTHING yourself.

When I said VB, I was referring PURE VB. Not accessing dlls written in some other language like C. I agree, VB is quite powerful when you access other files, but not by itself! (And whose ever heard of a cross-platform vb app?)

VB always accesses files... it's basic functions are even stored in DLLs.... You can't make a program in PURE VB.

This could go on forever....

By "pure", I mean that you don't declare any API calls, access your own dll files, or anything like that. I mean like using Shell() instead of ShellExecute, etc...

(Now I'm sitting here wondering what your next arguement is going to be...)

Bah! Who cares if VB is pitiful without DLLs and API... The DLLs and API are there, therefore, VB is not pitiful. Let's all stop arguing now.

Agreed