Bob Schwarz, Sr. 02-26-2002, 03:02 PM Well I meant to do this a long time ago and never got around to it.
I started a Seti team. It really was time to do it.
First go here and download the client
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/download.html
After you get it running and have a username registered follow this link to join the team. You set up username when you set up the client.
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_join_form&id=134625
Even though we are behind the others let's kick some butt.
After we get enough members I'll open a forum for seti members to kick back and relax.
Team page located at
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name=Extreme+Visual+Basic+Forum
Thanks.
Flyguy 02-26-2002, 03:05 PM I'm joining !
reboot 02-26-2002, 03:13 PM what is a Seti team?
oh I see... never mind.
Thinker 02-26-2002, 03:19 PM Why hasn't someone set up a SITI (Search for Intra-Terrestrial
Intelligence.) Once I know it is here, I might be willing to look for
it elsewhere. ;)
Flyguy 02-26-2002, 03:24 PM The search was completed back in 1983 by some Extra Terrestrial life form, and they came to the conclusion that there is, was and will not be any intelligent life form on this planet ever. ;)
orufet 02-26-2002, 04:28 PM Do a google search for the Drake Equation, it's quite convincing.
Volte 02-26-2002, 05:23 PM I can't seem to connect to the server with the SETI software.. hmm.. anyone have this problem?
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 02-26-2002, 05:51 PM Give it time. Took me 2 hours to get 2 clients up and number 3 on the main server is still trying. On their website they say they are having network problems. It will connect just give it time.
Volte 02-26-2002, 07:49 PM I got in, I'm a member! Yay! :) This is cool...
usetheforce2 02-26-2002, 08:09 PM join now!!
check out the -> competion! (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_type_0.html) <- we'll be at the top in no time :)
wild wolf 02-26-2002, 10:00 PM aha iam in iam in :D
wild wolf 02-26-2002, 10:17 PM i cant seem to signup and connect, is it some prob with my pc or the servers??? i cant wait to join :D
Banjo 02-27-2002, 04:19 AM I have been running SETI for several months but have never heard of this groups thing before. Quite cool though.
Joining now.....
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 02-27-2002, 01:32 PM Just want to add that if you run the command line client it takes less time to process a unit. It also is unobtrusive.
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 02-27-2002, 02:15 PM I switched over to the command line version after seeing the Linux server do 4 units in 12 hours. It took my WinXP box 8 hours to do one unit so I should have cut the time down a lot.
first download the cli from here
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/setiathome/setiathome-3.03.i386-winnt-cmdline.exe
I created a folder on C called seti and downloaded it to that folder. I also renamed it to seti.exe.
Next download these 2 tools. SetiDriver and SetiSpy.
SetiDriver can be found here:
http://www.wakeassoc.com/setidriver/
SetiSpy here:
http://personalwebs.myriad.net/roelof/setispy/
Download everyhting to the same folder that you created. C:\seti.
Once you have everything downloaded double click on setidriver and set the variables. I have mine set like this:
Maximum Processes 1
Desired Cache Size 4 this downloads the amount of work units so you can continue to crunch if the seti server goes down or you can't connect.
Select hide processing to hide the dos box.
The rest I left except to check the box at the bottom that says use setispy.
Now click new client. A dos box will pop up and after a couple seconds it will ask you whether you want to create a new user or use an existing user. If you had the graphical client running type 2 to use existing user and hit enter then it will ask for your email address. Use the email address you used wuth the graphical client. It will go on to download the work units. If will also pop up more dos boxes for each cache you set. If you set it to 4, 4 will pop up. Once that is all done an icon will show in your taskbar. Just minimize setidriver. If this is a new signup just select 1 when asked and use the email you want to sign up with.
Any questions post them here.
Volte 02-27-2002, 02:44 PM This really is going much faster now. :) Cool!
usetheforce2 02-27-2002, 02:55 PM Bob,
When i...Now click new client. A dos box will pop up and after a couple seconds it will ask you whether you want to create a new user or use an existing user.
i get on opne dialog box, not the dos box?
not sure what to do.
Regan
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 02-27-2002, 03:03 PM Open dialog is what you'll get and it should say something about cleaning files or something along those lines.
Here is a screenshot of seti running on Linux. The app is called ksetiwatch.
http://extreme-vb.net/images/shots/seti.png
Squirm 02-27-2002, 03:31 PM Yes I got the same thing.
Upon loading setidriver, it started by prompting me to select the cli exe I was using (seti.exe). I did this, filled in all the settings etc. Then clicked 'New Client' and up came the Open Dialog. I then selected the same seti.exe as before, and the dialog closed. No DOS box. I clicked 'New Client' again and same Open Dialog. Only this time, to my amazement the seti.exe had disappeared. I did a full HD search and didnt find it.....
Weird. :eek:
Volte 02-27-2002, 03:36 PM I'm not using SETIDriver.
I opened SetiSpy, then executed seti-cli.exe from the command prompt. That's it. SetiSpy just seems to know it's running, and it updates accordingly.
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 02-27-2002, 03:48 PM You have to have everything in the same folder. That's why the dialog popped up. It couldn't find the exe. If it was in the same folder it would have stsrted seti.
usetheforce2 02-27-2002, 03:50 PM got it!
follow bobs intructions up to "New Client". Just close "exit" then run setispy.exe. then it comes up as a dos prompt.
[edit]
ignore that, not working
its looking for a "state.sah" file, hmmm
[edit]
regan
Squirm 02-27-2002, 04:56 PM Got it working.
This is cool. :cool:
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 02-27-2002, 06:33 PM If the problems persist getting work units from S@H I'll set up a proxie that can server up the units for us. Let me know if you think it would be better to pull the units from this server.
usetheforce2 02-27-2002, 07:43 PM hey Bob
that would be a good idea, however they can quickly occupy lots of space on the server. And could we prevent multiple users grabbing the same unit, or does that not matter?
Regan
Bucky 02-27-2002, 07:52 PM Yay! I'm in! Let's kick some ET butt!
Volte 02-28-2002, 07:30 AM Well, I have 72% of the first work unit completed, and it's been going for 12 hours! Sllloooowww... I need a faster computer.
CPU time: 12:44:26
Speed: 56.42 Mflops
Rate: 5.73 % / hour
Efficiency: 11.84 CpF
Estimated total time: 17:27:21
Estimated time left: 4:42:54
Est. time done: 2:01 PM
Completed: 72.99%
Drift rate: -10.7824 Hz/s
FFT number: 23561
gallicus 02-28-2002, 08:00 AM sounds great!! love to join up soon. I am moving house at the moment - no internet connection. I am at work at the moment, which brings me to my point, if you are going to use your PC at work for this sort of thing, get permission first, I was reading an article on this site http://www.theregister.co.uk about a guy in the States who was prosecuted by the university or company he worked for for stealing computer space after joining SETI or Cancerbusters. Just a word of warning!.
BTW
for every one the other side of the pond
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/31/24195.html
Computer_Guy 03-03-2002, 06:27 PM I would be interested, since I like coming here to learn new things everyday, and think I could benefit from it, but I don't know what IT is, could someone explain this to me? Thanks
Ed
Squirm 03-03-2002, 06:31 PM SETI = Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence
ET = Extra Terrestrial (alien)
IT = Information Technology
Computer_Guy 03-03-2002, 07:19 PM Well, Squirm, of those 3 lines you gave me, I knew 1, so I'm slightly on the ball, lol
wild wolf 03-03-2002, 09:32 PM what do aliens and computers have to do?? iam running the seti server and sending in details everyday but i still dont know what it is all about :D
n6jah 03-03-2002, 11:10 PM Just joined and was pleased to read that all my past work units are going to be credited to Extreme Visual Basic... thats around 1300 work units. (My PC at work runs all the time I'm not there and averages a work unit every 12 hrs)
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 03-03-2002, 11:40 PM We needed a boost like that. Thanks for joining.
BTW is n6jah your ham callsign?
If it is de n9kn.
Never mind. Answered my own question by looking at your sig.
HI HI
The telegraphers laugh.
Squirm 03-04-2002, 07:05 AM SETI Info (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/learnmore.html)
SETI FAQ (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/faq.html)
Basically SETI downloads raw data which has been received by space telescopes. Your PC then analyses the data looking for certain patterns, called Spikes, Gausians, Triplets, and Pulses. It is looking for anything interesting in the data which would warrant further investigation.
n6jah 03-04-2002, 12:11 PM cq cq cq n9kn de n6jah bt
qth san dimas ca bt
u r 599 hr hi hi bt
sri but seti work units only 1208 as of this am not 1300 i thought last nite bt my bad bt
hp to cul
73
jim
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dcl3500 03-04-2002, 12:39 PM Ok Ham speak guys ;) Need an interpeter for that post. Have to dig out my morse code decoder for the sig too. :-\
edit/ Was it SISI? /edit
See that, I thought they were analyzing radio waves ;)
Orbity
Squirm 03-04-2002, 05:07 PM <---- picture of a very confused little programmer. :-\
Ok, so I got the command line version going quite well and I am finally catching up to Squirm ;). Here is the question, I have un-installed the graphical version and realized that it was half way through with the unit it was working on. Is there a way to copy and paste the data that is still in the directory where the graphical program was installed to somewhere that the command line version can finish the processing?
Probably a dumb question but I have everything setup already to do what it needs to do much the same way as Bob does above. When using seti driver to return my results can I then stop it when it is transfered and then just paste the data I still have to the hopefully now empty directory where the one that was just finished was. Now have seti just finish this one!
Orbity :-\
So I answered my own question, but if anyone else was wondering, just use seti driver and un-check auto transmit then increse your desired cache size and move all the files left from the graphical version into the new directory excluding "config.bin" (I assume this was for the configuration of the graphical client) that seti driver just created. Now go back into seti driver which shows 1 to fill and click in the desired cache size box press enter and presto it says none to fill :) Now you can change the desired cache size back to it's original value and I assume after it finishes the new one it will remove that directory and be back to normal.
If for some reason this doesn't work, I will let you know. It is working on one now and should hopefully pickup what's left from the graphical version when it is done.
Orbity
"sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in
the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." - Calvin
Banjo 03-05-2002, 06:57 AM OK, why does it delete the client exe when I click New Client? Is there a way to prevent this?
Also, has anyone figured out how to make it auto-start , so that I can put it in the startup group or Run key because its getting really annoying having to remember to restart it everytime I logon.
To answer the first question, I started the command line client first and then SetiDriver and that seemed to do it.
Second question, I have placed a shortcut to both the client and the SetiDriver in my startup folder and selected AutoTransmit in SetiDriver and it seems to be doing it for me. I only look at it once in a while to see how the progress is going.
Not sure if any of this will help you with your situtation, but it seems to be doing the trick for me ;)
HTH,
Orbity
Squirm 03-05-2002, 08:37 AM Right, I had a lot of trouble with this, here is how I did it:
Load up SETI Driver. If it DOES promt you for the EXE straight away, then when you get into Driver, uncheck 'Hide Processing' for a moment to see that the app is actually running. If the client is running, then set your options and be done. If it does not then read below.
If it does not IMMEDIATELY ask you to select the exe file then:
Close Driver
Start SETI.exe on its own. It should either start downloading or processing
Load up SETI Driver, it may prompt you to select the EXE, in which case do so.
Make sure 'Hide Processing' is unchecked, change all your settings and click 'New Client', select the SETI.exe
You will now have 2 SETI apps running
Close the first one you started manually
Check that only 1 seti is still running, then click 'Hide Processing' and let Driver do its job
You only need to do this once. Next time you start up your PC, just go straight into SETI Driver. It should detect that no client is running and then prompt you to select the EXE. The client then starts.
You can tell that more than one SETI is running if it is taking a long time and SETI Spy keeps fluctuating the progressbar.
Banjo 03-05-2002, 05:48 PM {QUOTE]You only need to do this once. Next time you start up your PC, just go straight into SETI Driver. It should detect that no client is running and then prompt you to select the EXE. The client then starts. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to avoid. I just want to run in the background, no questions asked. I'll try Orbity's method of running the client first and then the driver and see if that does it. If not, I'll come backto you.
wild wolf 03-06-2002, 07:18 AM tell me one thing, if i run the seti thingy on two diff pcs, and send in resukts diffreently, can i login as one user and have the points credited under one name??? coz i have two pcs running, and the seti is installed on both
n6jah 03-06-2002, 08:14 AM yes
i run seti at home & work no problems...
Rezner 03-08-2002, 07:21 AM Originally posted by Thinker
Why hasn't someone set up a SITI (Search for Intra-Terrestrial
Intelligence.) Once I know it is here, I might be willing to look for
it elsewhere. ;)
****
Rezner 03-08-2002, 07:22 AM Originally posted by Squirm
<---- picture of a very confused little programmer. :-\
Squirm -- you look exactly like Harry Potter!!!
wild wolf 03-08-2002, 07:24 AM lol squirm u got a new identity now, hi harry poter :D
tweekz 03-10-2002, 03:22 AM Here's my latest stats:
Results Received 1581
Total CPU Time 1.684 years
Average CPU Time per work unit 9 hr 20 min 19.5 sec
Average results received per day 1.89
Last result returned: Sun Mar 3 16:00:32 2002 UTC
Registered on: Sat Nov 20 18:03:22 1999 UTC
SETI@home user for: 2.303 years
Your rank out of 3575168 total users is: 59307th place.
The number of users who have this rank: 38
You have completed more work units than 98.340% of our users.
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 03-10-2002, 12:26 PM Another big hitter joins the team. Thanks for joining.
dcl3500 03-18-2002, 10:24 PM Was chatting with Bob earlier and he told me he had set up a server to cache work units for those of us using the CLI version.
To use it open the SETI Driver app and in the Proxy Server enter SETI.RESOURCE-ZONE.COM in the port setting enter 8000
Click save config then transmit. It may take a few tries to get it to synch with his server, but once it does you are good to go. You get all your work units from his store and no waiting on SETI to be up or down. He said he is keeping 500 units on hand so that should tide us over nicely :D
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 03-19-2002, 10:50 PM There is a cache server set up to upload and download your work units. The Seti@Home server is down a lot and when it is up it is slow. They have bandwidth problems. To combat this and make sure we all have plenty of work units I set up a cache server. The software is called SetiQueue and seems to work well.
At this time it has 350 work units waiting for you to download. The more users that use it the bigger the queue will get. It uploads completed work units 6 times a day.
This should combat the problems we have getting work units when Seti@Home is down.
More info on how to set up your client to use the queue server can be found at:
http://seti.resource-zone.com:8000
Also on that site are detailed statistics about the clients that are using the server.
If you haven't already joined the Extreme Visual Basic Seti team we could use you. So go and join now.;)
We started out late, but, we can catch up.
Computer_Guy 03-20-2002, 05:54 PM So I'm just going to run this thing and look for Intelligence even when I'm not here? And what are the units that take 12 hours? If the unit time has anything to do with modems, you oughta just count me out, since I just have a 56k, and a poor ISP. But if someone could explain a bit more of what's going on, please do.
Ed
PS: I remember the WebMaster saying something about how a Machine with XP does units slower that Linux / Unix, I have XP, so I'm probably even less useful.
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 03-20-2002, 06:09 PM Check out the thread about setting up the commandline client and set it up to use the team proxy server. The info on that is in the cache thread that is also marked important.
The only time it needs to be connected to the net is when it downloads a work unit and when it finish it has to connect to upload it. So total connect time is maybe 5 minutes 2 or 3 times a day.
The client runs in the background and you don't even notice it. OS doesn't mean anything.
join up we could use you.
Computer_Guy 03-20-2002, 06:58 PM Well, as soon as everything has been downloaded, Computer_Guy will have joined the team, though I still have no clue what I'm doing to operate this, though I'm sure it will be explained to me, lol
Ed
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 03-20-2002, 07:27 PM make sure you check this thread before you download anything. You want the fastest client and that is the one in this thread.
http://www.visualbasicforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=19985
Instructions on setting it up also there then check this thread to use our server
http://www.visualbasicforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=21777
Kickinit 04-04-2002, 09:18 PM Hey everybody. I just set it up and I think I got it all going good. I got a 2.0 GHz Pentium IV, so I think I might help. My comp stats are:
Speed: 685.42 Mflops
Rate: 60.64% / hour
Effeciency: 2.91 CpF
is that good?
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 04-05-2002, 08:59 AM You have it running. I seen you connect to the server last night. Welcome to the team.
matticus_99 04-12-2002, 11:42 PM Actually computer guy, the speed at which you can do work units depends totally on you computers hardware configuration. The only time the modem is used is when the WU are downloaded in uploaded. It takes some serious power to crunch this data.
I only have about 120 WU so far, but I also don't run the client all the time. At any rate count me in!
matticus_99 04-13-2002, 12:23 AM I should also add that the more clients you have running (up to a point) the more WU you can complete in a day.
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 04-13-2002, 08:50 AM Welcome to the team matticus_99.
I am just trying to join the Team!...
What is it all about?
ok.. Finally i have joined!..
Can anyone explain me what advantage i will get from it?
And SETI will get from me?..
:)
Thanks
matticus_99 04-16-2002, 09:09 AM 1. The advantage for SETI is quite simply free computing power to handle really tedious computing task that this project requires.
2. Really there is no advantage for you except the fact that you get to participate in the largest computing project ever undertaken. I don't worry about that, I kind of look at it like a benchmark. The more units I do, the better.
Squirm 04-16-2002, 11:18 AM Kickinit: Yes those stats are good, very good. :D
Welcome aboard! :)
10stone5 04-26-2002, 04:51 PM Some impromtu comments>>>
'Drake Equation' - problem was you couldn't estimate number of habitable planets - but now 80+ exoplanetary systems have been cited - the equation is getting easier to interpolate.
'SETI downloads raw data' - info on 'Big Ear' WOW signal detected in 1977 -
http://www.bigear.org/wow.htm
Xilica2k2 05-19-2002, 02:09 PM sounds fun..... im interested..... should i join if i cant keep my computer on when i am not using it??
Squirm 05-19-2002, 02:13 PM Possibly. The whole point is that you leave your machine running for a substantial continuous period of time. When I was involved, I left my box on 24/7 and all of our top SETI members do the same. It really depends how much power and speed your machine has and how long it can be left switched on.
:-\
Xilica2k2 05-19-2002, 02:17 PM oh..... i got it..... i'll join attempt joining during the summer when i can leave my comp running overnight. Anyway, i went there it is seems like a simple set up. :)
wild wolf 05-24-2002, 03:39 AM i forgot my user name and password for the seti, is there a way i can retrieve it? i know the user name is something like wild wolf, not sure
wildwolf!..
Check out Get Password (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/get_passwd.html)
Your password has been email to you, from the address i know(joymail)!
wild wolf 05-24-2002, 04:13 AM thanx got it :)
MTgeekMAN 06-09-2002, 11:29 AM I have joined the team but my computer goes through the WUs very slowly. can any one help me speed them up?
System specs
CPU: AMD K6-2 500mhz
RAM: 512mb
OS: Win ME
GFX Card: Geforce2 mx 32Mb
what I mean by slow is they go at about 1% per Hour
ChiefRedBull 06-09-2002, 01:41 PM Do you have a lot of other memory resident or system tray applications running? They shouldn't be a problem with all that memory, but still...
You could of course download and use the command line version which I hear is much faster. Look for a link in this thread somewhere.
MTgeekMAN 06-09-2002, 04:15 PM Much better I went from 100+ hours per WU to about 20 hours
wow thanks for the help ChiefRedBull
kulbak
Squirm 06-09-2002, 04:25 PM In my experience, the speed is not determined by RAM, it is affected by processor speed and the size of the processor cache. :)
ChiefRedBull 06-10-2002, 04:35 AM But if there's no RAM free, there's no processing space. Thus, no speed.
Banjo 06-10-2002, 04:49 AM Also, remember that if there is a small amount of memory then the OS is forced to page out to disk. This is a slow operation and if the OS is having to do it regularly then the overall system speed will be affected.
anomaly 06-17-2002, 12:32 PM i just switched teams, I havent done seti in a while but I got pretty good stats which just transered to the group. I was with team art bell compliments of my uncle, but I like you guys better :O)
matticus_99 06-21-2002, 07:46 PM For those who view seti as a hassle but still wish to contribute here is a link on how to run the command-line client as a service in 2000/XP. Also welcome to the team anomaly.
http://www.geocities.com/lwddemon/setiservice/
MTgeekMAN 07-04-2002, 09:02 PM Alright, Sweet My parenst got a new compaq and are letting me use it to do WUs and its is going at about 1 work unit every 3.75 hours.
My coMputer took 17+ hours to get to 40%
got three done already
Look for mike way down in 27th place but movin on up:D :D :D
to the founder of the team:
Please regenerate the team page. it is not updating correctly.
MTgeekMAN 07-11-2002, 09:39 PM Just got some new computer parts and will now be running a Athalon XP 1800 with 512mb of pc2100 ram all with my new soyo dragon ultra platinum edition Mother Board.
Will blow my K6-2 500 away.
vilanova 08-02-2002, 12:25 PM Just Joined yesterday and everything is up and running, just a couple of questions though.
Firstly, is it worth my while downloading the command line version for speed (i downloaded the windows version)?
Secondly, how many could i have open at the same time? (i am running an athlon cp 1800+, 512mb pc2100 ddr).
I thought this would go in the seti post !
I mean that i ahev just joined your seti group.
BillSoo 08-02-2002, 12:27 PM I'm guessing you are refering to SETI?
vilanova 08-02-2002, 12:28 PM yes, sorry, i just edited the thread.
Bucky 08-02-2002, 01:25 PM Yes, the command line version is MUCH faster because it doesn't
have to draw all the graphs and stuff. Also, you can have as
many open at the same time as your CPU can handle, I believe.
If you have Windows 2000 or XP, you can go to Task Manager
and adjust the priorities of each one so that their CPU usage
is equal for each one you have open. (Go to View -> Select
Columns, and check CPU Usage and Base Priority, right-click on a
process to change its proirity) Be sure not to set the prorities
too high, or they will take over your computer and leave no
processing power for anything else (not good).
Robert Neilson 08-08-2002, 05:27 PM how do u guys know that ur not just processing information for some bloke who set this whole thing up?:D
is this basically just giving part of ur internet connection and processor to do task for them?
matticus_99 08-09-2002, 11:28 AM I encourage you to read this. It will explain the science and the reason why they use other peoples computers.
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/about_seti/about_seti_at_home_1.html
Squirm 08-09-2002, 12:42 PM They don't use your internet connection. Even very rarely connected computers can participate in the SETI project. The connection is only used for retrieving work units and sending the analysis results back.
henszey 08-20-2002, 03:43 PM I have been thinking about doing this for a long time but now that i have a much faster computer there are alot of unused cycles.
Starting the download now...
henszey 08-25-2002, 01:09 AM Just wondering if the group page takes awhile to update, since on http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_134625.html it shows me as having no statistics and http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?email=henszey_@hotmail.com&cmd=user_stats_new shows all my statistics.
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 08-25-2002, 01:53 PM The team stats pages at seti@home are down. As soon as they get them back up the page will regenerate and your stats will show.
dolphin 08-26-2002, 01:06 AM hi i do have seti here and a friend of mine has got the id and password.
but till yet i m not able to understand what and how are we the part of the seti and how is it helping us.
well i also want to know that how does it works.
henszey 08-26-2002, 01:10 AM The Main computers send your computer a small chunk of data, then your computer goes through it running several differnt algorithms to search for pulses and things like that. After your computer has processed the data it sends the results back to the main computer.
vilanova 09-01-2002, 02:51 PM is anyone else having problems with connecting to the seti server. I cant connect to send of some results.
also is there a way to see how the stats of individual members of this group?
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 09-01-2002, 03:03 PM Follow this link to see the stats of the team and each member
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name=Extreme+Visual+Basic+Forum
vilanova 09-01-2002, 03:07 PM are you aware of any problems?
matticus_99 09-01-2002, 08:30 PM The team page is located here (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name=Extreme+Visual+Basic+Forum)
Sometimes the data server goes down for a variety of reasons. The best bet to help keep you up and running is to use SetiDriver (http://www.wakeassoc.com/setidriver/). With it you can cache a few (or many) workunits to keep you going when the data server is down.
vilanova 09-02-2002, 12:59 AM i have done that and am on my last packet.
vilanova 09-02-2002, 01:04 AM the message i get when connecting is this:
new software version.....
connecting to server
connect: no such file or directory
cant connect to server
bionicdonkey 09-04-2002, 02:32 AM for a guide to setiing up seti or installing seti as a service in windows xp go here:
http://bionicdonkey.host.sk/index.php?modname=Seti
vilanova 09-09-2002, 12:57 PM Anyone know how (where) to find out your rank?
henszey 09-09-2002, 10:31 PM You can see your rank in our group right here...
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name=Extreme+Visual+Basic+Forum
you are 19 when i wrote this post
Lexdysic 09-21-2002, 11:37 PM Sorry, I cant join, Ive had my own group for a few years now and i would like to keep working on it.
vilanova 09-27-2002, 01:45 AM Can anyone tell me why, when i am sending results it is not then downloading more information to process (i.e. fill)? and how i can fix it please?
ayoung 09-27-2002, 02:01 AM i cant get it to work
I have the name SETI.EXE
And when I click new clinet it pops up windows and then I click it and it deletes the SETI.EXE?
HELP!?
ayoung 09-27-2002, 02:12 AM Im using the Command line (I cant get Seti Driver to work?)
Should I use Seti Driver?
But I just ran seti.exe
and then im using Seti Spy?
Is this how you do it?
Adam
ayoung 09-27-2002, 02:19 AM I joined!! I joined!:D
(This post was accident sorry)
ayoung 09-27-2002, 02:22 AM I joined!! I joined!:D !!
Ok but I dont have the Driver working?
O wait..
Humm I might have got it working now...
Ill post you for an update
I have a 66% rate, is that good?
ayoung 09-27-2002, 02:33 AM Ouchie WHA WHA!!
Im a avid overclocker (I have my 1600+ at 1900+ currently (Ive had it at 2300+, but that was one my friends mobo, i need a new one, mine sux bad!!)
But what I was gonna say is that this really heats things up.
In winter ill just turn SETI on when I get cold..
lol
ayoung 09-27-2002, 02:35 AM 1 more thing LOL
MY Overclocked
P1 MMX 200 @225 is doing a .99% Rate..
****!?!
LOL
EDIT:
Everything is working correctly on BOTH machines :-)
ayoung 09-27-2002, 02:45 AM Some one said 'Well be at top in no time"
Ouch.. that is a OVVVVVVVVVVVVVVER Statement
We have like 9000 in and the LOWEST on the chart has 195864
LOL, and over 400 years, we have 12?
Come on, we need more people!! I might Setup another machine.
(I have 2 fried 1800+ that I gotta send back, If I got those going I could do tons of them a day)
:-)
I just gotta send them in!!
ayoung 09-27-2002, 02:51 AM CPU time: 0:10:15
Speed: 482.40 Mflops
Rate: 42.43 % / hour
Efficiency: 3.27 CpF
Estimated total time: 2:21:24
Estimated time left: 2:11:08
Est. time done: 6:46 AM
Completed: 7.26%
Drift rate: 1.3124 Hz/s
FFT number: 958
WHY DOES THIS KEEP GOING DOWN???
CPU time: 0:12:16
Speed: 450.31 Mflops
Rate: 39.61 % / hour
Efficiency: 3.50 CpF
Estimated total time: 2:31:29
Estimated time left: 2:19:13
Est. time done: 6:58 AM
Completed: 8.10%
Drift rate: 1.7358 Hz/s
FFT number: 1262
??
It was steady at around 60-70%????
ayoung 09-27-2002, 03:00 AM But if there's no RAM free, there's no processing space. Thus, no speed.
Red, Memory is 1% of this operation
Its all about CPU Speed/Speed of your cache and how much.
It could prob run on 2 megs, but would run slowers, each of my things takes up about 15 megs of mem
(I have 1 gig, so no worries here im running 4 processes
:-)
)
ayoung 09-27-2002, 03:21 AM 1 more question before I goto bed!!
Does More processes slow down the work untis per hour?
(Im setting up my Dual PII 300 To see how that runs :-))
Night all
The Dual 300 will be up tommarow most likely!!
ayoung,
You have successively Posted 10 threads each with a 5-10 minutes difference. Can you please control on it unnecessarily.
Have a look at Posting Guidelines. (http://www.visualbasicforum.com/announcement.php?s=&forumid=25).
No duplicate threads. Post your question once, in one thread, in one board only. You will get a reply if you have observed guideline 7 and if someone knows the answer, but it may not happen straight away. Duplicating often dilutes the volume and quality of any responses you receive, and potential respondents may not reply to a duplicate knowing that a moderator will delete all but one of them. If you wish to clarify your question, do so in a reply to the original thread. This action will 'bump' your thread to the top of the thread stack. Empty 'bumps' are discouraged and threads 'bumped' in this way, more than once in 48 hours, will be deleted.
Your threads are not *really* duplicate, but it is not the way to post 10 threads when there is no reply to your threads. The wiser way, will be to edit one of your Posts, with the new updates you want to show or explain.
I hope you will take the suggestion Positive. :)
ayoung 09-27-2002, 04:23 AM O sorry dude.
My appoligies
(Im still up, screwing with that Dual PII, but im going to bed now...)
Lol 6:00am here
Again, Im sorry Anis and Anis, how far are you from the plants where they made the CPU's?
Sorry Man,
Adam
EDIT:
O anis and it you look, my posts started at 9:00pm and ended at 10:25 Almost 1.5 hours, not 5-10 minutes
Just so you know :-)
Its ok. Just keep in mind for future. Have a Great Day.:)
ayoung 09-27-2002, 12:40 PM NP man
ayoung 09-27-2002, 01:08 PM Is anyone alive?
How long do the stats take to update on there site?
Adam
Banjo 09-27-2002, 01:25 PM As soon as you update a completed unit I suppose. I'd imagine that the page is dynamically generated from the results database.
vilanova 09-27-2002, 01:33 PM anyone got any ideas why my cache doesnt auto fill when updating?
ayoung 09-27-2002, 09:08 PM would running it on a Ram drive make it any faster?
(I dont think it would cuz the files are soo small n e way, that there are just cached into the Ram n e way.)
matticus_99 09-27-2002, 11:05 PM I don't really think so, people for the most part run it on a ram drive so they can power down there disk drives and it can still process the WU without accessing the HD. The thinking is I guess that it saves power if only the MB and power supply are running.
ayoung 09-27-2002, 11:14 PM 35) ayoung 4 14 hr 29 min 3 hr 37 min 25.4 sec
Wow looks like my PC is fastest (Well unless someone is doing what I am)
It wont be in a few hours, I have m Dual Pii 300 which does like 10 hours per work load
and my P1 MXX @225 is like 35 hours, so once they send in there data, it will sky rocket to a bad (sloowwwwwww ) #
But for now my Pc is pretty fast :-)
ayoung 09-28-2002, 02:07 AM Well I finally got my Dual System up, I had it on Winxp but it was sllllloooowwwww!!
So I put Win2k Pro, and it ALOT faster, actually its alot faster than I thought.
Its does 2 processes and it is doing about 8.5 hours per work load..
Remember this is a Dual PII 300MMX, @ 8.5 hours(Running 2 processes), where I have a 1900+ (10.5x150) @3.1 hours (Running 4 processes) But i dont think the processes mess with that number, beucase it avg's them out.
But that is ALOT faster than I thought!
thats kool
I have:
1 Really slow machine 30+ hours (P1 200Mxx @ 225 )
1 Kinda Fast Dual Pii (Dual Pii 266 @ 300)
1 Fast 1600+ ( Amd Athlonxp 1600+ @ 1900+)
Sounds like fun!! :-)
O BTW Im gonna make a small web page for the SETI team here so people can join, its just gonna be one simple page and it will have all the info that you gave us about where to get all the stuff.
(Ill prob just copy and paste)
Adam
:D :D
ayoung 09-29-2002, 03:41 AM This is just a 15 minute website.
Nothing special
(On my sig)
Tell me if you want me to (consider) change anything.
Or if you want to to (consider) add anything.
Which I prob. will, with no problem.
Adam
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 09-29-2002, 07:53 AM I like it. We do need a replacement queue since I took the one we had running down. Good job and I have bookmarked it and will be using it when I get the seti box back online.
vilanova 09-30-2002, 04:27 AM why dont you post a message in the main forum about seti and this group and try and get a few new members, afterall there are only around thirty members (most of which seem to be innactive). The group really isnt doing that well. I think that if a message was posted in the main forum then more people may join your group.
henszey 09-30-2002, 04:58 PM Hey man, i'm not inactive on the seti thing, i have 4 computers running it!
a
1.2Ghz computer
a
733Mhz computer
a
233Mhz computer
and a
133Mhz computer
bionicdonkey 10-01-2002, 04:50 PM i was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to test my guide for running seti as a service in NT/2000/XP. i would do it myself but i don't have access to a computer running nt at the moment. here's the guide:
http://bionicdonkey.host.sk/service.php
Thanks
ayoung 10-06-2002, 03:13 AM Originally posted by Webmaster
I like it. We do need a replacement queue since I took the one we had running down. Good job and I have bookmarked it and will be using it when I get the seti box back online.
Whats a "Replacemnt Queue"
thanks Honcho :D
Adam
frodobaggins 10-15-2002, 11:30 AM Hey i joined and i have a 350 Mhz(256MB) running GUI and a 700Mhz running CLI my 350Mhz(160MB) is soon to have CLI
frodobaggins 10-16-2002, 11:52 AM Hey Does neone use SETI nemore. Only a few ppl have returned results in the last few days; I am afraid that is y we are not Ranking!!!!
Banjo 10-16-2002, 12:31 PM We are not ranking because we have a handful of members compared to some teams who have hundreds.
You are right though. There aren't many people doing it anymore. See this thread (http://www.visualbasicforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43654) for reasons.
frodobaggins 10-17-2002, 11:23 AM But it does not matter the number of members. Some of the top teams have the same number as us
Banjo 10-17-2002, 11:41 AM There are a couple but none above 48th and from the number of years they have they must have started a long time ago.
I mean come on, there are national teams in there. The only way I can think of to get that many people is to make new members here join our team, and I don't think that's such a good idea anyway.
frodobaggins 10-17-2002, 12:00 PM yes this is true
Lewis 10-18-2002, 02:32 AM Some teams (especially the top 50) have say 300 computers running on corporate networks, so they can return nearly a years results every day, to catch up with them your team would realistically need about 1000 members, each with say 10 computers each, each processing units in about 10 hours, thus getting 2 1/2 units a day, contributing 25,000 units a day, gaining 10000 days computer time every day, and that will still take time to catch up...
The Sun team has returned 1023765 results, with 1047.406 years of CPU time, av work time roughly 9 hours, that's what you have to compete against.
At the very least to get into the top 1000 you need to get 33192 results, and 55.251 years computer time.
Long way to go.
henszey 10-18-2002, 10:04 AM Whooo Hooo, over 10,000 results received!
ayoung 10-21-2002, 04:29 PM Are there any seti kernals that are Multi threaded? (Multi processor support?)
Adam
frodobaggins 10-23-2002, 11:54 AM Yes i am movin' up in the group
20 WU
30 of 39
rimby 10-23-2002, 12:52 PM I don't get it.
I mean, what does this actually do? How is it helping in the search for extra-terrestrial life? Maybe I'm stupid, but the site seems like an advert for spyware (shock! gasp!), with "when you go for a coffee, your computer will be..."
What type of information is this processing, and why would we want something using processing power, whether we're at our computer or not?
It sounds a good idea, but (lol) I'm 56 K dial-up so I doubt I'd contribute to finding our little oddly-fingered friends :)
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 10-24-2002, 05:10 AM I hit 1000 wu sent. Didn't have seti running for a couple weeks because I was changing some things and moving servers around. Once I get it running on the rest of the computers again at home and work the second thousand should come around much quicker.
Lewis 10-24-2002, 08:39 AM Originally posted by rimby
I don't get it.
I mean, what does this actually do? How is it helping in the search for extra-terrestrial life? Maybe I'm stupid, but the site seems like an advert for spyware (shock! gasp!), with "when you go for a coffee, your computer will be..."
The idea is (and this is explained in more depth in the site) is that SETI use a radio telescope(s) to analyse radio waves coming from space with the ideal goal being that they discover some strong signals from outer space that hopefully they will be radio signals from aliens, hopefully saying "Hello" (and not, "we're coming to kill you" ;) )
What type of information is this processing, and why would we want something using processing power, whether we're at our computer or not?
The idea here is that when you are not at your computer and it is on, it is essentially idle and wasting processing cycles. SETI (and the other similar projects like UD Cancer research) uses this idle power to process the data looking for certain signals. I want to help find a cure for cancer, and as my computer is on 24/7 (and I'm asleep ~8 hours and out from 8am to about 8:00pm, and thus not in use from about 11pm to 8pm during the week (21 hours a day), it can use that spare CPU time to process data rather than just sitting there doing nothing.
[It sounds a good idea, but (lol) I'm 56 K dial-up so I doubt I'd contribute to finding our little oddly-fingered friends :)
Your modem speed has nothing to do with this. Users download a file, the cpu processes it, then the result is sent next time you are online and a new one is downloaded. With regards to dial up, you can download a cache program that stores 4 units, proceses them and sends them when you are next online.
vilanova 10-24-2002, 11:09 AM im afraid i left this group - there was hardly anyone interested in from here, about 10 people actualy interested.
frodobaggins 10-24-2002, 11:30 AM Webmaster i tried to connect to the proxy a couple of days ago but coudn't. What do you think is wrong?
TMinobu 11-03-2002, 05:10 AM Anybody knows the functions seti are using to analyze data ?
dcl3500 11-05-2002, 11:54 AM Bob I haven't been able to connect to the proxy for awhile now, not sure how long as all that machine does pretty much is run SETI so I don't look at it all that often.
Volte 11-05-2002, 01:16 PM I just got back into SETI. I got my new box (AMD Athlon XP 1800+)
and it's going about 26% and hour (so a little under 4 hours per
unit), and I'll be getting some more memory soon, so it should go
even faster.
TMinobu 11-05-2002, 07:17 PM I have a amd 2100+ and get about 3,25 -3,5 hours every unit...
My number of units sent is 9827 with an average of 30-40 units/day I have several machines making units ...
The best way to increase speed with seti is making it work as a service
You can use setiqueue. A very good way to caching units ....
This way if you cant connect , you dont need to stop seti couse setiqueue can wait to send the unit and can give units cached.
You can look setiqueue page at
http://www.setiqueue.org/default.asp
Chazz569 11-10-2002, 08:33 PM In the ladder for the top something best helping group it show Total CPU time ( in years), what it that based on? X Mhz running non stop for 1 year.... Anyway it hard to fix a number of Mhz sinces the Mhz of a average PC is no constatent
Lewis 11-11-2002, 02:08 AM CPU time in years is basically:
1 year of cpu processing - your computer running non stop for 1 year. However, this is variable, because if someone has 10 cpus, they can get 10 years cpu time over 1 year, or 1 year cpu time in 1/10 of a year.
Adding more RAM almost certainly will not improve unit processing time as the unit is done using cpu power alone to numbercrunch the unit. Adding RAM will only make background applications have more available to them, and to my knowledge, this does not effect cpu speed enough to suddenly drop the processing time significantly.
LordHelmut 11-11-2002, 02:36 PM Its being advertised in other places too. All the more help with the ongoing process :)
http://www.fantasytalesonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=682
Chazz569 11-11-2002, 02:38 PM I thought it was based on a number of Mhz, I feel newbish :P, but it cool, I downloaded and it running as I type, I'm at 2% I'm can't relly help mutch cause can't keep comp on over night but I'm trying to get a few "work package" thing done, Alltought I might be able to finish a few, kinda my way of thanking for this forum :) and providing for SETI program
Chazz569 11-11-2002, 07:25 PM HOLY *****, I'm was running that normal program, it was going to take me arround 40H or more to complete a work unit thing, I download this thing called a SETI command line withc remove all the pretty little GFX and does it dos style with reason just silent, compare it
Normal:
20.77 Mega Flop
Total time: 44:59 Hours
Rate: 2.22%/hour
bla bla bla
Command Line One:
137 Mega Flop
Total Time: 8 Hours
Rate: 12.16%
bla bla bla
Ok, my computer isn't relly fast, but compare the Radio... There a BIG diff! I started command line one 3 hours after and it allmost caught up to the normal one (I think its offcialy made by the offical SETI@home team 2) So if you want to catch up use that program (I'm running both at the same time actutaly)
Get it from attachement Also I've inclued SETISpy witch will return info like the one i posted above and tell me where in the sky map your processing and stuff like that. Happy searching!
Removed attachment -- see the posting guidelines. If you want to share it, please post a link to the publishers' website instead.
allway well go to SETI plug in and get command line NT and SETISpy
ayoung 11-16-2002, 08:08 PM Is there any multi threaded SETI kernals?
Cuz if you have a 2 processor system, and you want to just run 1 process it will just run one of the processors 100% and the other will not be touched even if you set Priorty on High and affinity to both processors?
TMinobu 11-17-2002, 01:45 AM At the moment there is not any multi cpu client ...
Gamer X 11-17-2002, 07:44 AM I think it's funny that the Seti parody thread (http://www.visualbasicforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49272) has recieved more thread views in one day than this one has in nine months! :D:D
Arigato,
Gamer X
NoteMe 11-27-2002, 07:00 AM I first tryed to do the command thing. But it didn't work. Then I downloaded the Win version. And now I have one green radar and one red radar in my tray. Is that normal, or have I one working and one not working SETI app running???
NoteMe 11-29-2002, 09:04 AM I'm climbing...or something like that...
frodobaggins 12-02-2002, 11:20 AM weird, i don't know what the red icon is but the green icon is SETI@home gui version.
Command line version should work. make sure you have command line and a program called SETI driver (http://home.sprintmail.com/~obermd/SETIDriver). that should do you good. In SETI driver there is a radio button down at the bottom of the window that says "using Setispy" i think.
SETI spy (http://pages.tca.net/roelof/setispy/) is another program you should download so that you can see the progress of your SETI@home client.
P.S. if you have anymore problems just ask.
frodobaggins 12-02-2002, 11:23 AM these instructions may also help (http://members.home.nl/marcel.zuiderveld/)
NoteMe 12-02-2002, 12:00 PM Thanks, but I'm using the windows version in stead. Maybe not that fast, but it was much easyer to set up ;)
I'm soon finished with my 8th "data-thingy". And still climbing on the list :D
Threw Under 12-04-2002, 10:27 AM The windows version is far too slo to run. It takes about three times as long (or more) to complete. In my case that would mean 12 hours, which is quite fast. It shouldnt be hard at all to set up, as i remember all u have to do is download the main client and the set driver put them in the same folder and run the driver.
NoteMe 12-04-2002, 03:10 PM I downloaded everything into one folder...but when I started it the exe a choosed just disappeared...and nothing happened....
The first data unit was sent away after 28h, the second after 21...now my win client uses about 5-8h on one...So if I could get the other one to run...this might get pretty fast...
Banjo 12-04-2002, 03:19 PM Just run the SETI client exe on its own and then start the driver exe. This will stop it from deleting the client exe.
NoteMe 12-04-2002, 03:32 PM I got it I got it...its running as hell....
Estimatet time: 3.22.41.....
Just one more question...can I close the console window...and just have the setispy window open...or???
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 12-04-2002, 04:05 PM Download setihide. Do a search on google for it. It will control seti command line version. I use it and like it.
NoteMe 12-04-2002, 04:10 PM I found out that SetiSpy could do it...So now the onøy thing showing is setyspy down in the right corner of my try....
So with a estiamtet time of 3:25...then I suppose I'm readdy to start climbing this list...
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 12-04-2002, 04:18 PM I'll be watching my back as you come up the ladder.
NoteMe 12-04-2002, 05:06 PM Originally posted by Bob Schwarz Sr
I'll be watching my back as you come up the ladder.
...lol...I'm never going to reach the top...but I like to think that I'm adding something to the team...nice to be working with you guys...;)
frodobaggins 12-05-2002, 11:47 AM Originally posted by Bob Schwarz Sr
I'll be watching my back as you come up the ladder.
Wow he is coming up fast i better ugrade and watch me back also
NoteMe 12-05-2002, 11:50 AM Originally posted by frodobaggins
Wow he is coming up fast i better ugrade and watch me back also
I don't think so...because I have to turn my PC of 2-3 weeks when I go home for X-mas, so you have some time to upgrade your PC....:D
NoteMe 01-05-2003, 04:15 PM Finished 100 now...and still climbing the charts....back from vacation now...so the next 100 will go much faster...
NoteMe 01-09-2003, 06:38 AM What does it mean that SetiSpy is Idle???????????
Banjo 01-09-2003, 09:15 AM I'd guess it means that you are not processing anything. Did you allow it to download more data blocks? I normally set it to cahce at least 10.
NoteMe 01-09-2003, 09:20 AM I don't use SetiDriver..(I think) only SetiSpy...so I don't think I can choose cache...
..something happend and the setispy closed...when I tried to open it up again it said..."SetSpy canot access the file state.sah" Abort/Ignore...if I press Ignore it is just standing there "IDLE" doing nothing...
Banjo 01-09-2003, 09:55 AM I didn't think that you could use SetiSpy without the driver.
NoteMe 01-09-2003, 10:00 AM I'm not sure if I'm using it...but when I tried to to follow how to use the command line version of Seti, the command box didn't pop up. But when I startet SetiSpy afterwards it did...
NoteMe 01-09-2003, 12:12 PM OK, now it sems like I have doubled the proble, for a couple of hours ago, nothing was working, now it looks like both the SetiSpy and SetiDriver is working. Look at the picture. Any one else has this in their task bar????
Banjo 01-09-2003, 12:29 PM Yes regularly. The Driver is what controls the downloading and upload of data. SetiSpy simply takes that data and presents it in a nice way. You absolutely need the client exe and the driver but Spy you can load and unload as you see fit.
NoteMe 01-09-2003, 12:36 PM But the SetiSpy and the SetiDriver is not presenting the same information. Are you sure they are woking on the same data....
Banjo 01-09-2003, 01:57 PM They should be. Do you have them both in the same folder?
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 01-17-2003, 12:41 PM NoteMe, You are moving up the list pretty fast. Good job.
NoteMe 01-17-2003, 12:45 PM Thanks, I'm trying...I got a certificate for doing 100 a couple of weeks ago...:D
Squirm 01-17-2003, 12:53 PM I think I would have received 'certificates' if I could remember my password so I could change my email address.
:-\
NoteMe 01-21-2003, 01:50 PM And today I pased "dcl3500" too....BTW where is "dcl3500" havn't seen him around for a while....
anomaly 02-04-2003, 02:43 AM one day when i get a real comp, i might climb up the ranks too, lol
NoteMe 02-04-2003, 08:38 AM If we look at the total CPU time, you are almost the "best"....hehehe....3490 hr 45 min
NoteMe 02-05-2003, 02:00 PM Something is not like it should be. Now I'm finaly under 4 hours Average CPU time. But Ablecken that has more then 9 hours are going faster then me....I think he has got a new machine...
BTW I can't see him on this forum...
NoteMe 02-05-2003, 02:01 PM Never mind. I did see him now...he is a zero poster..;)
Chumbinho 02-07-2003, 09:22 AM so, i don't have mush time for reading all this one...
but, i've read some of the posts...
i'm thinking if is there a way of making it more faster ?
is that what I read ?
Chumbinho 02-07-2003, 09:35 AM 2 hours !!
and just 5 % of the data has been processed...
I need a way of doing it faster !!
hmm...
just wondering, rebooting my computer will clear the data processed that did not been sent ?
Chumbinho 02-07-2003, 09:44 AM hey...
can i run a user in 2 computers at the same time ? like...
use my login information in more than 1 computer ?
'cause I have a Cyber-Cafe
with 20 fast computers (for games), and, if i could do this...
my stats would climb very very fast...
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 02-07-2003, 10:08 AM Yes you can.
Chumbinho 02-07-2003, 10:13 AM what about running it faster ? how ?
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 02-07-2003, 01:57 PM Use the command line version. It will run much faster.
Squirm 02-07-2003, 05:06 PM Originally posted by NoteMe
But Ablecken that has more then 9 hours are going faster then me....I think he has got a new machine...
'Ablecken' may be running many machines with the same account. Even if all the machines run at 9 hours per unit, with just 2 machines Ablecken would still rise up the ranks faster than someone doing 5 hours per work unit on just one machine.
GavinO 02-07-2003, 07:48 PM Is there a way to merge the SetiSpy history coordinates from two machines?
NoteMe 02-10-2003, 04:00 PM So it's not helping for me to now have the fastest machine on the team...:( hehehehe
BobTest 02-11-2003, 06:14 PM Test something.
excaliber 02-15-2003, 08:31 AM question for you all. I've got it running as a service on my win2k box (we shut it down every night, and i got tired of restarting setidriver).
I just finished a WU, but have no idea how to transmit it. where is the data that got processed (the name). Seti-driver still recognizes the old seti.exe, so i cant use that. what files could i switch out so that setidriver can transmit?
Squirm 02-15-2003, 08:48 AM Inside the folder where SetiDriver lives, you should see folders numbered 1 up to however many units you have cached. Inside these folders are all the files associated with a work unit.
However, you should be able to configure SetiDriver correctly so you dont need to go around moving files.
:-\
excaliber 02-15-2003, 12:05 PM but the problem is i dont know where the service stashes its wu's...any idea?
i think i know where they are...
excaliber 02-15-2003, 01:56 PM nevermind, i figured it out. The service dumps them in this one location, and all i have to do is run seti.exe from that location to transmit
nother question...i've heard of people running multiple instances of seti? is this more efficient?
NoteMe 02-15-2003, 02:25 PM I am doing that now. It is a little bit faster, but not very much...
excaliber 02-15-2003, 04:17 PM Ok, i've got two going, splitting the time evenly. That good?
GavinO 02-16-2003, 01:46 PM I can't see the advantage in having two programs using the CPU time, as you are now having twice the overhead, reducing the total amount of time spent on the actual calculations. Unless, of course, you have dual (or quad) procs or one of those fancy Pentium 4 HTs.
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 02-16-2003, 02:03 PM There is no advantage to run more than one on a single cpu box unless you have one of the new P4 3.06Ghz with hyperthreading turned on. I just built my wife one and it does 24 wu a day.
excaliber 02-17-2003, 10:38 AM 24 a day? Thats insane! Well, im running my amazing (cough) 401 Mhz machine, and its cranking (puttering, more like) out one every 2 days, which is a large improvement over one a week using the GUI SETI.
I got too lazy to start setidriver each day, so im back to running just one service SETI. :)
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 02-18-2003, 03:34 PM It was a long hard fight, but, I finally made it to the top.
Yes, the 3.06Ghz box I built for my wife does 24 a day. It has hyperthreading enabled and 2 instances running and both are done in 2 hours or under. It out performs both the dual Xeons servers that we run this site on and my Dual Xeon that I use for a workstation.
I am considering going to 2 of them as servers instead of the duals. It will run better and will not consume as much power. The electric bill is getting rather high.
Squirm 02-18-2003, 03:45 PM excalibur: I modified SETI Driver so that it doesn't ask you for the SETI client location each time it starts up. I then put a link to this new SETI Driver in my Startup folder and it goes along all by itself. So far it only works if SETI Driver and seti.exe are both in a folder called C:\SETI but I am working on it so that it can grab the location from the commandline or from a file.
If you want I can upload it next time I am in town. :)
excaliber 02-18-2003, 03:57 PM Sounds good. The service works well, except whenever it finishes, i have to shut the service off and transmit manualy, then restart the service.
howd you modify seti driver? Is it open source?
NoteMe 02-18-2003, 04:41 PM Originally posted by Bob Schwarz Sr
It was a long hard fight, but, I finally made it to the top.
Congratulations...you deserve to be at the top of that list...;)
Squirm 02-20-2003, 06:57 AM Originally posted by excaliber
howd you modify seti driver? Is it open source?
Yes SETI Driver is open source (C++):
http://www.wakeassoc.com/setidriver/SourceCode.htm
excaliber 02-25-2003, 02:51 PM Huh, cool. Too bad i dont know C++...
Now that im getting a new motherboard/CPU, i'lls tart cranking out the WU's. Its only 1.6 Ghz, but i'll overclock as much as it'll go, so should get more work done... :)
ayoung 02-25-2003, 10:39 PM Im gaining on your Squrim :-)
May take a week, but ill be up there soon!
GavinO 03-01-2003, 12:38 PM I feel a sudden urge to build a system on one of these and try to unseat Bob ... and then I look at my wallet.
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thundergche.html
Bob Schwarz, Sr. 03-01-2003, 12:54 PM That board is expensive and the processors are real expensive. I have a quad Xeon server, older P2 500Mhz 1meg cache. I have it offline because one of the vrm is bad. It was running the database for a while. It is a real workhorse. As soon as I can find a replacement vrm I'll put it back up.
excaliber 03-01-2003, 12:59 PM Sigh...and i thought my new 1.6 Ghz Athlon was good...I'll beat you all one of these days...the power of old computers!
**Goes down to basement and continues networking several ancient computers together, putting out one WU every week combined**
GavinO 03-01-2003, 03:01 PM 1.6 Athlon beats my 1.2 T-Bird. The gig-o-ram helps, tho.
Yeah, the board and chips are expensive. The RAM is getting cheaper, though, not that it helps when you need that much of it to max out the board. If only it had an AGP Pro slot, you could throw in a Wildcat4 and a Pure card and never have to turn off particle effects in 3dsmax viewports.
excaliber 03-16-2003, 06:54 AM Watch out everyone, my new comp is up and running!
Well, this machine (400 Mhz) gets a WU done every 17 hours.
My new machine (1.67 Ghz) gets them done in 6.77 hours.
HAHAHAHA
**Wanders off to laugh manically some more**
GavinO 03-16-2003, 08:01 PM All but two of my 200+ WUs have been between 0 and 30 degrees above the plane of the ecliptic (I think that's what its called) Is there a focus on this region of the sky, or is it coincidence? THe other two came from about 45 degrees above.
And as for speed, my 1.2 Ghz can do a WU in 5.8hrs if nothing is running. Sounds like you got a bum box :)
NoteMe 03-17-2003, 01:10 AM I have a 1,6GHz AMD MP doing my WUs in 3,51...;)...and that is while a I am working an constantly downloading movies and stuff...
excaliber 03-17-2003, 10:18 AM in 3.5 hours? Maybe its because of my harddrive. The drives are ancient and really slow. One is only one gig, and the other is 500 megs. Im going to replace it soon.
The processor is up to speed, i ran some benchmarks on it. And the memory isnt a problem, got 512 megs of RAM
NoteMe 03-17-2003, 12:28 PM I have only 256Mb of ram...but I think that I becuase I have a MP prosessor things are going a little bit faster...
excaliber 03-17-2003, 03:00 PM Yea, i have the AMD Athlon XP 2000+
Would it matter that im running on 98 SE, with the hard drives still on FAT16? :)
GavinO 03-17-2003, 03:13 PM I run with 1Gb of RAM, 98SE, with FAT32. The MP doesn't have extra efficiency stuff that much, I don't think; its just got the multiprocessor segments certified. You can use an XP in a multiproc system, there's jsut a chance it will not work/blow up.
NoteMe: Looks like you're the guy who's going to stop my rise; everyone between us either never runs seti@home or has a longer result interval than me. Time to requisition the other machines in my house ... which brings me to the quesiton of merging the coordinates displayed in the Sky Map section of SetiSpy. Are those stored somewhere that I could copy between machines, or is it in some inaccesible location?
excaliber 03-17-2003, 04:52 PM "multiprocessor segments"? What are those? Is there a way i can safely enable them, and will it help?
Anything else i can do to speed it up? Im running SETI CLI, but also using SETI Driver. Does Driver slow it down any?
GavinO 03-17-2003, 05:43 PM The chips have to have a bit of them working that allows a multiprocessor system to run. Sometimes, this bit doesn't come out working from the fab process. Rather than throw away an otherwise functional chip, you just package it as 'not certified for multiproc.' What you want to improve speed with seti@home is a large amount of L1 and L2 cache (on-processor memory) and lots of floating point support. Newer chip architectures in the same processor name will do better at the same clock speed. The latest generation of Athlon XP, for example, performs better than the last generation at a lower clock speed (3000+ runs at a lower clock than 2800+) because of improved architecture. Multiprocessor capabilities don't weigh in the equation, unless you have multiple processors (Or, like Bob, have a chip with Hyperthreading, which is different from multiprocessor support)
excaliber 03-17-2003, 06:11 PM Hmmm...not much i can do about improving the L1 and L2 Cache (128kb L1, 256kb L2). I cant change the floating point either, can i.
Anything else i can do to speed up performance? Other than overclocking that is. :)
GavinO 03-17-2003, 07:14 PM If you shut off unneccessary background stuff, like a firewall, antivirus, etc. (Yeah, um, kill your internet connection before dropping the firewall ... might want to cache a few WUs before you do that) you can get a performance boost. Also, insuring that your chipset drivers are up to date might get a bit more performance.
Hey, I found where the history for SetiSpy is kept. In the seti@home root directory, there is a file called setispy.log. All the WUs processed while SetSpy was watching are there. If you kill setispy part way through, the WU is still recorded, just with a non-100% completed state.
As another performance mark, I just set up seti@home on my sister's 1.3Ghz Duron with 256Mb of DDR, and it reads 3.32hr/WU. And my 133Mhz Pentium Pro machine does 54Hr/WU :(
excaliber 03-18-2003, 01:13 PM 3.32 hours on a 1.3? Something must be seriously wrong with my comp. Its down to about 5.3 hours, but thats still slow, comparatively speaking.
Do you think that the combination of 98Se/FAT16 and old harddrives is slowing it down? I have next to nothing running in the background (Motherboard monitor 5, RAMPage (RAM utility) and a LAN connection monitor program)
GavinO 03-18-2003, 01:25 PM That was after about 5mins of operation; actual will vary a bit. Buy my sister runs the Drempels screen saver, which is like seti@home in that it eats all idle clock cycles, but unlike it in that the pretty patterns don't actually mean anything. It jumped to about 94Hr/WU with the screensaver on.
I have no idea why your machine has poorer performance than mine; the Duron is supposed to be a piece of crap for CPU intensive apps.
Hey, I think I fixed the little screensaver issue: I wrote a little proggy that kills the screensaver from 11pm to 12 am (when sis isn't near the machine) so that seti@home can run at full power. Funny that screensavers have become so that they actually cause more brightness on the monitor than what is there normally (though the moving image is probably better than the staic one) and are more for entertainment than monitor longevity.
excaliber 03-18-2003, 07:20 PM Well, im quite happy now.
I formated my C drive and installed Win2k (a hard and painful task...the monitor didnt work, had to reload the drivers, too much paged memory was being used and took up the drive, etc.)
But after the sweat and toil of installing it was done (and reconfiguring/installing all my other apps), Im quite pleased. While running defrag at the moment, its doing abou 5.12 Hr/WU, and seems to go even lower when not defragging. I think this is thanks to the Win2k OS and the NTFS on the drive.
Cheers!
excaliber 03-19-2003, 04:13 PM HAH!
I fiddled with the DRAM Timings, CAS, latency, increased the FSB to 136, enhanced the AGP for better performance, etc.
And got it down to 4.02 Hr/WU.
:)
If the FSB is set to 140, it drops to 3.5, but then the comp randomly reboots itself, which was unnacceptable.
On a different note, I've either found the little green men or my comp corrupted the data while i was fiddiling with the DRAM...
GavinO 03-19-2003, 04:22 PM That or you got a WU very heavily populated with suspicious data. Always wondered if they take artifacts induced by overclocking into the seti@home program ...
excaliber 03-19-2003, 04:39 PM lol...just have to wait and see...if my name comes up in the world news in the enxt few days, i'll gladly sign autographs. :)
NoteMe 03-19-2003, 11:21 PM I had 76 once. Bu that is only once....and 36 and 38 once...;)
GavinO 03-20-2003, 01:39 PM I got 14 spikes today, after a system crash while seti was running. I think its a record for me. Were your oddly high numbers near system crashes?
NoteMe 03-20-2003, 01:43 PM My machine has only crashed 2 times the last 8months, so no that has nothing to do with it...;)
excaliber 03-20-2003, 02:23 PM I got 14 spikes today, after a system crash while seti was running. I think its a record for me. Were your oddly high numbers near system crashes?
Yup. I was fiddiling with the FSB and the DRAM Timings, which caused it to reboot about 5 times without warning in about an hours time. I bet thats what happened. :D
Gleek 04-09-2003, 09:18 PM I just joined the team... so now we have 51.
excaliber 04-10-2003, 01:03 PM AHHHHH! No! :D
Go join the EXVB RC5-72 Team! SETI will be ending soon, so we started a different project
The RC5-72 Client is just as easy (if not easier) to setup. We only have two people on the team, so ever bit counts! Go Join! ;)
http://www.visualbasicforum.com/t69993.html
Gleek 04-10-2003, 04:29 PM Ok I installed that too, so I guess I will just start running that instead! I jsut thought that noone was doing it anymore cause there were only 2 on the team heh.
excaliber 04-10-2003, 04:35 PM Lol. Nope, we just started! Thanks for starting! Recruit your friends! :D
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