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Old 03-17-2015, 10:17 AM
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I have an old spare Dell PC that has a license for Windows Home Pro. I still have my VB 6 discs. I would like to make a VB 6 development PC. That will be it's sole purpose. The last time I reimaged and put VB 6 on it, some of the OCXs no longer worked. The Inet, WinSock and some other common ones that I cannot recall at this time. I think it was due to some XP security updates and at the time VB.Net was all the rage so nobody cared I guess.

If I start from a fresh install of Windows XP Pro, can anyone tell me any MS Updates NOT to install so that I can essentially create a PC just like I was back in 1999 again using VB 6. Well, maybe a little more modern than that. :-)

I had VB 6 Enteprise. I want to be able to create some apps and compile them. Maybe any of these compiled apps will not longer work on newer PCs? I have no idea.

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People use all of that stuff all day long today without incident. And they do it on supported versions of Windows rather than the unsupported and increasingly hazardous Window XP.

Yes, there are landmines awaiting in the Windows Update game of russian roulette but I don't know of anyone who has a map showing where they all are. Every time you install VB6 post-Windows 2000 you are taking a chance, that's just how it is when a company is taken over by bathless savages. Now you know how the average Roman citizen fared when the barbarians fell upon the city.
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As an alternative, I installed VB6 (with service pack 6) on both Windows 7 and also within its XP Mode virtual machine (so I have an XP desktop).
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Old 03-23-2015, 10:39 AM
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As an alternative, I installed VB6 (with service pack 6) on both Windows 7 and also within its XP Mode virtual machine (so I have an XP desktop).

I tried Virtual Machine a while back to see if I could get Windows 95 and 98 installed. It was tough and turning into a thing that would take my whole weekend. :-) I gave up but I like the idea of having many systems. It's too bad because I have so many good programs/games that run specifically for 95 or 98 and even DOS.

Is the XP Virtual Machine setup easier than 95 or 98? If so I may do that. Actually I want to try that tonight with my XP Pro. Can you point me to some good step by step instructions?

Thank you very much Cerian Knight!
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There are various Virtual Machine options out there, and I haven't kept up with them.
I know I tried Microsoft's and had issues, and I tried the free version of VMware and had issues trying to get it set up.
I'm currently using Oracle's VirtualBox on several machines, and it seemed much easier to setup initially, which is why I've stuck with it. But the last time I installed it was around two years ago (I originally had it on Windows XP and some Linux machines). The primary issue when installed on Windows 7 is the USB driver interracts with Win7 so that if you run the Virtual Machine, there is a good chance you won't be able to use a USB memory stick in either operating system (host or guest) while the Virtual machine is running.
They may have fixed that by now, but I don't have privileges to install software on my machine at work, so can't upgrade the VM to a later version. (Not being able to install software on my work machine is the main reason I slipped loading the VM software on my work machine before I lost the ability). Since the VM software is already on the machine, I can install a new guest OS and load software in it, if needed. It's the only way I can still run some old VB3 software, if I want to reference something I wrote 20 years ago.
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At home, I use Oracle VirtualBox on one PC and keep a real Windows XP as a secondary boot drive on another. Both PCs have Windows 7 (Home Premium and Professional, respectively) as primary OS.

At work, I use the current iteration of Virtual PC for Windows 7 (I use Professional, but it works with any 7 release) and I installed XP Mode for Windows 7 (officially only for Professional/Ultimate/Enterprise) in conjunction with Virtual PC. The XP Mode installer makes configuration of Virtual PC nearly seamless/painless/hassle-free and has support for quickly mapping USB storage devices into the virtual machine on an always available integration bar. Other than having to recently configure the virtual network away from NAT and set the virtual machine to Shutdown, instead of Hibernate (both due to corporate switch to DHCP), I had no big issues. However, recently, when I added a second monitor (that is rotated compared to the primary), XP Mode app windows behave oddly (e.g. get stuck to second monitor, resize/move issues, focus/input problems), but I've found work-arounds.

I understand Windows 8.1 takes simultaneous multi-virtual integration to a whole new level with Hyper-V, but Hyper-V doesn't support XP Mode (you'll have to create an XP virtual machine manually): http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...rtual-machines
Win 8.1 also natively mounts ISO and VHD images for file access.
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